The most striking thing about the Thamud was the huge buildings and structures they built into the sides of mountains. The tribes of 'Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. After several centuries of independent existence, it was finally incorporated into the Roman empire in 106 AD. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Quranic tribes of Aad and Thamud a historical perspective. [17], Thamud is mentioned twenty-three times in the Quran as part of a moralistic lesson about God's destruction of sinful nations, a central motif in the Quran. or, if he should, he can never take it, or take me from hence, conquer and subdue me. Is there a possibility that these remaining tombs (around 1400 years back, were more in number and had dwellings as well) were inscribed upon by the Nabataeans as has already been proposed and I came across a while back, Assalam alikum what about 40:21 and 40:82 if someone could explain these verses, Walikum Assalam, Several other inscriptions bearing the namesAad and Iram have been discovered in Jordan. Otherwise, it could be also the Lihyanites, who disappeared some time before Isa (as), they also had some kind of rock art. The Nabataean alphabet was adopted by Arabs to the south, and evolved into modern Arabic script around the 4th century. The story of musa (muses) a.s. _ Magic and Illusi Suhih Muslim _ Book of "End of the World", Who is Musa a.s. (Moses) ? There existed a nation called the Edomites. The Ghassanids, Lakhmids and Kindites were the last major migration of pre-Islamic Arabs out of Yemen to the north. [21] Syrians who belonged to Monophysitic denominations welcomed the peninsular Arabs as liberators. And they used to deny Our Ayat! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him! People descended with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, to the valley of Hijr, the land of Thamud, and they drank from the wells and kneaded flour with it. Nevertheless, a number of interesting archaeological sites still exist in Arabia that have preserved the ruins of lost civilizations, such as the Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih). of 'Ad and Thamud by name. Their responses were a reflection of this culture. Again the burden of proof is on us that this was the case. [23] Arab tribes such as Banu Muzaina migrated, and the Arab Muslims in the region had more impact on the culture of the Maghreb than the region's conquerors before and after them. And when they did that, Allahs wrath came on them. The expedition of Tabuk does identify the dwellings and ruins of a destroyed nation of Thamud and this area is between Madeenah and Shaam/Syria. If the Nabateans carved out the structures on the hills and mountains of Petra and Median Saleh, as the Christians allege, then both the Quran and the Bible are in error, which I dont agree with. In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. More than a century after Jesus, in the reign of the Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius (d. 180 AD), we find that a part of the Thamud tribe was enrolled in the Roman army. [2] The Thamud are not specially connected to the Thamudic scripts, an aggregate term for understudied writing systems of Ancient Arabia. Such an amazing thing was supposed to be their sign. Assalamualaikum thnx for the link. Among such nations were the 'Ad and the Thamud, the Amalekites and the Himyar after them, the Tubbas, and the other South Arabian rulers (Adhwa). 4. This structure is not only large enough to house several individuals, but contains benches which suggests that it served some social function, hence it can qualify to be called a place of dwelling. Thamd, in ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes known to be extant from the 8th century bce to the 5th century ce. . Al-ijr, Saudi Arabia: ancient Thamd house, This article was most recently revised and updated by. the fate and remains of past generations with our eyes bcuz verse 25:37 speaks about the people of Nuh AS and it tells us that Allah SWT left a sign for mankind. In addition to building gigantic structures, the Aad were also conquerors. We should look at the original Arabic for word though to fully understand. that that Thamud did it then the edomites took over then the nabteaons but all I know is that Thamud existed before 3000 bc so 3000 bc is probably when they were destroyed then the edomites revamped them made them look new then the nabteaons did the same and I believe the tribe of ad was destroyed weather 5-8 thousand bc and I believe noahs flood was around the ending off the ice age what was between 10-13 thousand bc became the population of the world was only 1 million at 10 thousand bc and no more than 20 million people at 5000 bc what makes stuff interesting but as a side note if the quran does say that noahs people was the first to commit shirk then ad then thamud but none at the same time or between then thamud had to come before 9000 bc so that was when they would be destroyed because the gobeki tepe was built then and that was definitely pagan shirk but this is my opion but thanks, And of course ad was the descendents of noah and thamud was the descendents of ad. A Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamd By Ibn Kathir - Fri 14 Muharram 1425 (5 Mar 2004) 0 5604 Explanation: means, they were arrogant, stubborn and disobedient. I just had the chance to look at the comments now and I dont seem to understand the problem here. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Also bonus when you say there buildings were not on the surface what do you mean do you mean the outside was gone but you could see the inside like a cave do you mean that, 15. The Rashaida of Sudan and Eritrea live in close proximity with the Beja people. Though one could argue that they knew of Salih and hence Allah could hold them responsible, but this is speculation. After giving birth, the camel drank all the water from a well every two days and then produced enormous amounts of milk for the people. Allah doesnt need you. Compared to modern civilizations of this time that we live in, these were still archaic and that is just sign of the times but compared to those who came after them in the lands, these destroyed civilizations were e definitely stronger. (9:70) Have they not heard the accounts of those who came before them [77] - of the people of Noah and 'Ad and Thamud, and the people of Abraham and the dwellers of Madyan (Midian), and the cities that were overturned? They were 6 meters tall! What else do you have in mind Q.28:58 is general: And how many a city have We destroyed that was insolent in its [way of] living, and those are their dwellings which have not been inhabited after them except briefly. ___Fatwa. Dont ever think youre indespensible. Between the mountains were valleys with gardens and springs of water. They are related to the Banu Abs tribe.[33]. Ad and Thamud were two great civilizations destroyed by God due to their excessive wickedness. We have no concrete evidence that Nabateans were destroyed. The tribes of Arabia descend from either one of the two Arab ancestors, Adnan or Qahtan. http://www.imgrum.org/media/1483126817820752683_724804649 Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. Badawi writes: [li] and his followers left the doomed area just before Gods punishment befell them. Nabateans replaced them and built on them/around them It is addressed there The Quran and quoted Hadiths indicate that the buildings of the Thamud were visible at the time of the Prophet () as signs to the Arabs. due to the belief as mentioned in the Quran that warners were sent to all Nations. They were more sophisticated than the Aad. The fact that he showed them the well of the she-camel and confirmed the area as geographically related to Thamd but made no comment on the tombs shows that he knew they were unrelated to any previous Prophet. Follow the great majority of Muslims today? The sentence, This structure is not only large enough and a couple more contained links. They were Giants and so powerful. SUHIH MUSLIM _ THE BOOK OF HEART-MELTING TRADITION 40 Hadith Qudsi_ Al Nawawi's Forty Hadith. Ok thanks jazzakkallah last questions and ill leave it at that what do you mean not on the surface and is 89:9 saying the Arabs could still see those buildings because it says (the rocks it uses al the why not just say rocks and what does it mean by rocks does it mean houses or mountains thanks What? Thus, at the end, the people of al-Hijr are mentioned. The story of Miraj- Isra _ Suhih al Bukhari, Can you brush your teeth in Ramadan? In sura 15, there seems to be a chronological order: At first the story of Adam (as) is mentioned (26-50), then the story of Abraham (as) and Lot (as) (51-77), then the story of the people of al-Rass,i.e. But as well see below, archaeological and literary records place them firmly in Northern Arabia/Jordan, well after the death of Jesus (33 AD). [26] The name is a misnomer from the nineteenth century, when such texts were discovered in areas associated with the Thamud in the Islamic tradition. We must look at them, ponder over the signs of Allah and take heed. So youd then say that the buildings at Madain Salih were indeed originally Thamudic and then after that built upon by other nations? Then remember the favors of Allah and do not commit abuse on the earth, spreading corruption. [7:73. And this advancement led to a stratified society of haves and have nots. The Nabateans who made the carvings in Madain Saleh and Petra, as well as other Arab groups like the Dedanites/Lihyanites, are their successors. Other later Arab migrations in Iran include the mostly cross Gulf migrations of Arabs into Hormozgan and Fars provinces from modern day eastern Saudi Arabia and other Gulf States, post 16th century. The Quran itself says that the dwellings of Thamud were khawiyatan during the time of the Qurans revelation. After the destruction of Ad, Thamud succeeded them in power and grandeur. Allah sent a powerful windstorm to the Aad that destroyed them and left them sprawled and mangled in their homes. Some Muslims have mistakenly equated sites such as these with the first Thamud of the Quran, but it is believed by archaeologists that a different group of people called the Nabataeans, in fact, built some of these sites. I believe neither are in error. Allah sent the Prophet Hud to give the Aad the message of Islam. Both groups of people were located on the Arabian Peninsula. A Warning to the Disbelievers and a Reminder of the Story of `Ad and Thamud. Replying by always staying what is the problem or what is the issue seems to have a rebuking or shaming tone that appears very harsh to the questioner. However, there survived long after that, people who still called themselves Thamd. The buildings of Thamud may or may not have remained but the well did exist then 2. In addition, when the verses talk about Verily there is a sign in this, it doesnt necessarily mean that we have to see the sign i.e. The Ghassanids increased the Semitic presence in the then Hellenized Syria, the majority of Semites were Aramaic peoples. This is the she-camel of Allah [sent] to you as a sign. Firstly, Ashab al-Hijr seem to be Thamud (15:80-85) because although this is the only time they are called this name, commentators unanimously agree that they are Thamud. The word atharan or assar as loosely written in Urdu literally means effects or reactions or remnants left behind as an escape of a crime scene where clues or signs point to. the nation of Shuayb (as) is mentioned (78-79). It becomes rather implausible that a people who a had a law against building a house, would then start constructing breathtakingly massive structures from the rocks of the mountains themselves. Can someone please answer 89:9 because Im really stuck on this verse. So, basically during the time of the Prophet (), their remains were not on the surface and only some of them were visible. [4] Historian Israel Eph'al questions the plausibility of Sargon's account, as the briefness of Sargon's account seems to be at odds with the fact that such a campaign deep into Arabia would have been one of the longest wars in Assyrian history, and because no mention of plunder is provided. As is the usual case, the Christians are, 1. However, inside most of them is only a small room about three to four square meters in size. And it is We who were the inheritors. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. Assalam alikum so is 89:9 present tense or past tense the altheana jabbu al sakrah bilwadi bit and you are saying that the thamud dwellings have gone destroyed after the prophets time, And Is madain al saleh wadi alQura or is wadi alqura some where else, And do you think there houses were destroyed before or after ibn kathir and could the land of thamud be petra ir yemon because there is a town called thamud in yemon, And does 27:52 mean there dwellings were destroyed or empty and could 89:9 mean there dwellings just of been caves in the prophets the outside gone fallen if you know what I mean and can. These things had huge doors, elaborate engravings, complex designs, and must have been an amazing sight in their time. [4] This entire passage has been sent by Sharif. When some one has a keen desire to understand logically or has questions, there is nothing wrong I think. But as a sign of their wickedness, they killed her. The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee It seems we gonna have some proper analysis on this case, and Allah (as) knows best! Id hate to be the one to rain on the holy Christian parade, but this inanity has to be responded to. The Nabateans After the Arab conquest of Persia in the 7th century, many Arab tribes settled in different parts of Iran, notably Khurasan and Ahwaz, it is the Arab tribes of Khuzestan that have retained their identity in language and culture to the present day while other Arabs especially in Khurasan were slowly Persianised. Thus, there was a latter 'Ad as well, whom some exegetes considered the people of Thamud. Of course there are lessons to be taken from the stories of these two nations. While certain online Christian communities are abuzz with elation and glee, some Muslims are faced with difficulties in formulating a proper response to the latest Christian accusation. Assalamualaikum the ruined abandoned wells may possible be referring to those belonging to the People of Ar-Rass (i.e. Revisionists are conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories sell so in order to make quick money and get fame, some western pseudo scholars propagate this absurd conspiracy theory. This is because Prophet Ismail (AS) is often considered to be the father of Arabs just like Prophet Ishaaq/Isaac (AS) is considered to be the father of the Israelites. So you must also monitor your life for the signs that youre receiving. And [We destroyed] 'Aad and Thamud and the companions of the well and many generations between them. . And does the verses before say the Arabs could see the Arabs loft pillars or just saying what they used to do 89:6-8 What is the issue here? I guess it can be said that the Nabataeans can be considered one of the nations succeeding the people of Thamud. It is not a revealed book any more and hence, we are not bound to believe in a few thousand year old civilization our scriptures do not mention any such thing. The Thamud did not worship God, and were disobedient. [17] The Muslim governor of Egypt encouraged the migration of tribes from the Arabian Peninsula to Egypt to increase the Muslim population in the region and to strengthen his regime by enlisting warrior tribesmen to his forces, encouraging them to bring their families and entire clans. They are aws and athiri in origin with element of arphaxad It is generic for multitude of civilizations In my opinion this is an argument that Muslims have to tackle thoroughly due to its ease of presentation by non-Muslims and (hypothetical) explanatory power. This shouldnt be surprising as the Quraish, and in fact most faiths, do the same thing. If they were made for dead bodies, it stands to reason that we should find at least one dead body in them. 1. It is likely, then, that most of the artifacts in this region belonged to the many generations of those who came after them as the Quran mentions. Also you said 89:9 means a valley is not Madain al saleh a vally or is it not Will you forbid us to worship what our fathers worshiped? So you could see the people therein fallen as if they were hollow trunks of palm trees. The Targum is,thou art like to an eagle that dwells in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is in a high place;this they were proud of, thinking themselves safe, which deceived them; hence it follows: that saith in his heart, who shall bring me down to the ground? Anyway, whats really important is what led to their punishment. Ptolemy, who lived in the second century, wrote that the "Thamuditai" tribe inhabited the Red Sea coastline, and that the "Thamoudenoi" tribe lived in inland northwestern Arabiaeither or both may be references to the Thamdwhile his contemporary Uranius believed that the Thamd neighbored the Nabateans. And when they conqured people, they did so in a harsh, brutal, and ruthless manner. 'Ad and Thamud are closely connected by both Islamic and pre-Islamic sources. Are women deficient in intelligence in Islam? Archeologists have put these ruins from the first century BCE and the first century CE. God sent Salih to warn them, then after they ignored him and murdered a she-camel that God sent, He killed them and left only Salih and those who followed him alive. [27], This article is about the ancient Arabian tribe. you who live in the clefts of the rocks[a] [18], On the eve of the Rashidun Caliphate's conquest of the Levant, 634 AD, Syria's population mainly spoke Aramaic; Greek was the official language of administration. God destroyed them. Five Syriac inscriptions mentioning Arabs have been found at Sumatar Harabesi, one of which dates to the 2nd century CE. Now imagine if people arrive from Latin America, find Mount Rushmore, and make a few inscriptions on it. We simply do not know the true date and timeline for when the first Thamud of the Quran existed and, therefore, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to accurately identify the ruins of such an ancient civilization that lived thousands years ago. See the video here (arabic): https://youtu.be/yjRjkjQ-VEA, Me however I lean towards that Madain Saleh is not the place for the Quranic Thamud like Dr Thiaeb (linguist of ancient arabic and archeologist) has been repeatedly saying at least since 1995, because among other reasons that Madain Saleh lacks all the marks of Gods wrath, the earth quake levelling Thamud etc. - - * - The Kingdom of Thamud was the first existing kingdom on the Arabian peninsula, according to Assyrian and Roman sources. Now we dont see the remains of Nuhs AS people now do we? Large numbers of Bani Rasheed are also found on the Arabian Peninsula. Based on the Quranic and Biblical evidence, and the lack of archeological evidence which can conclusively show that every single structure that is excavated, and those that will be excavated in the future, are all Nabatean in origin, I believe carving out structures on hills and mountains originated with the Thamud, which was later adopted by the Edomites, which later still, was adopted by the Nabateans. It may very well be that during the time of the prophet, certain structures were still apparent to them that are now hidden due to natural occurrences, such as earthquakes, accretion of sand and erosion with time. What the visitor sees there today are hewn hills; no mansions remain on the plain. There was a great influx of Arab tribes into Khuzestan from the 16th to the 19th century, including the migration of the Banu Ka'b and Banu Lam from the Arabian desert. The first ancient tribe of Thamud should be distinguished from later tribes named Thamud by historians and archaeologists, as well as the region itself, which was known as the land of Thamud and sometimes simply Thamud.. [3] As the "Ta-mu-di", the peoples are mentioned together with the Ephah, the "Ibadidi", and the "Marsimani" as part of "the distant desert-dwelling Arabs who knew neither overseers nor officials and had not brought their tribute to any king". The video (arabic): https://youtu.be/0XIPP6vsDmA. 2 See, I will make you small among the nations; As such, missionaries and polemicists have claimed that the mistakes of Muslim folklore, or contradictory applications of the name Thamud to archaeological discoveries, suggest an historical mistake in the Quran. Eph'al instead speculates that the Thamd and other Arab tribes may have made arrangements with Sargon to trade in Samaria, which Assyrian historians embellished as submission. As for option 2, we know next to nothing about the Thamud. [13] Robath is likely the ancient name of modern al-Ruwfa. According to Saudi-archeology website, an academic website aimed at archiving the rock images and providing archeological information on them, the structure may have been used for holding sacred feasts. We have a good perspective of the size of these supposed tombs in this picture, as the faade has been destroyed. For a few reasons. The caliphate also allowed the migration of Arab tribes to Egypt. It doesnt speak about being touched or untouched. Even though we dont know for sure how this succession took place, I like to think that perhaps there were a few survivors from that windstorm that wiped them out. Thamud used to carve out rocks in the valley The Thamud (Arabic: , romanized:amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation[1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. Ignore the entire thing and continue to spread their deception and lies. They were elites. However, now none may be visible and what is visible now are those made centuries later. Or is that verse just saying what they used to do in the vally Are Hadiths Anti-Semitic? The Bible Their dwellings remained but very partially How destroyed do you think the buildings were and does the hadith mean that there inside were not destroyed or could of they been destroyed as well or not. The title People of al-Hijr was, therefore, that of Nabateans who came much late in history and their period overlapped with Thamud-II, the remnants of Thamud-I, the subject of Quran.[5]. Change). Amorites [30], In the 12th century, the Arab Ja'alin tribe migrated into Nubia and Sudan and formerly occupied the country on both banks of the Nile from Khartoum to Abu Hamad. Take your time and let it sink in: 1. [27] Both tribes are of great reputed antiquity and, according to traditional Arab genealogists, are two of the four ba 'ida, or extinct tribes. What is uncovered thus far reveal that the structures are not dwellings, but tombs. [24] Whether the poem is genuinely by Umayya or is a post-Islamic creation is a matter of debate. But the Thamud were more nuanced in their rejection. And indeed we do, but with an unexpected twist! The Arabs then could see Thamud dwellings but we today cannot. From some understanding, it is derived that Thamud were an ancient Arab people well before Musa (as) and possibly well before Ibrahim (as) and hence the tombs (no dwellings to be seen in the present day ruins) must be very ancient and not recent like the Nabataeans. They were a little more inquisitive (at least at first). Instead, the camel is killed by a certain "accursed Amar", and the camel's foal stands upon a rock and curses Thamud, leading to the tribe's annihilation except for a single lame woman who is spared to spread the message of the destruction. Asking the deceased for supplications or intercession? Its like me living in a house, then someone tears it down and then builds another house and says Abdullah used to live in that house while the fact is that I did not. Because were left with no records which can help in our archeological inquiry, even dating the structures becomes a difficult, and perhaps, an impossible task. [20] The Arabs of the caliphate accommodated many new tribes in isolated areas to avoid conflict with the locals; caliph Uthman ordered his governor, Muawiyah I, to settle the new tribes away from the original population. So Ad lives in a mountainous country with lush valleys; and they made altars on the mountains. And remember when He made you successors after the Aad and settled you in the land, [and] you take for yourselves palaces from its plains and carve from the mountains, homes. These Arab tribes have played a role in the demographic changes in the Arab world through the increase of the Arab population,[8] as well as the ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and genetic Arabization of the Levant and North Africa.[9]. [28] A large Arab migration to Mesopotamia followed the Muslim conquest of Mesopotamia in 634, which saw an increase in the culture and ideals of the Bedouins in the region. 13. These Thamud built gigantic castles, hundreds of feet high, and they literally carved them right into the sides of mountains. The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. 11. They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. It was these nine families that cause much of the problems for Salih. Its not an easy read, especially as most of the stories leave the reader perplexed in terms of their relevancy to ones personal life or attainment of anything didactic that enriches or nurtures a relationship with God. This generally means that despite very weak appearance now they one were very well established from the remanats. God then destroyed the tribe, except for Salih and a few other righteous men. [25] The Arab tribes of Maqil migrated to the Maghreb a century later and even immigrated southwards to Mauritania. The account presented in Surah an-Naml also mentions nine evil people of Thamud who are immediately responsible for God's punishment of their people[Quran27:4851] in a narrative reminiscent of Jewish descriptions of the demise of Sodom. A report in the hadith collection of Bukhari makes this connection between Thamud and al-Hijr quite explicit. Is Thamud mentioned in the Bible? I believe carving out structures in hills and mountains may have been a common practice within the ancient Arabia and its surroundings based on both the Biblical and Quranic accounts. What do we intend to get out of the statement that they were more in number and strength in what they left behind. Can it be said that the Thamud made wells and their successors i.e. Do you think that there inside of there buildings had to of caved in Also if it is in the present it makes it sound there buildings were like brand new like not destroyed etc, This is it then Im done but thank you very much for answering my questions jazzakkallah, 3. Even though they built great sculptures, they werent extremely sophistated people. Modern historiography "unveiled the lack of inner coherence of this genealogical system and demonstrated that it finds insufficient matching evidence".[14]. 'Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of God's chosen prophets - and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. According to the Greek historian, Diodorus Siculus, the Nabateans have a law neither to sow corn nor to plant any fruit-bearing plant, nor to use wine, nor to build a house. 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