There is a also bit of light overdrive in the tone. Pink Floyd's "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" is a classic, thanks in large part to David Gilmour's otherworldly guitar playing. He would do this for each chord change in the intro to Shine On You Crazy Diamond, effectively doing both the keyboard and guitar parts all by himself. 650-680ms were occasionally used for long delays. Play the note, let it repeat, then play the note a second time where the 1400ms repeat would be. David would play a chord, raise the volume pedal to send the signal into the SDE 3000, then lower the volume back to to zero to kill the input signal. USING TWO DELAYS - David has stated he used two delays, one in 3/4 time (dotted eighth notes) and one in 4/4 time (quarter notes). The first delay is definitely set to 470ms, which is the 4/4 time. Guitar stuff, gear stuff, soundclips, videos, Gilmour/Pink Floyd stuff, photos and other goodies. RLH Intro live 1984 style - Boss CS3 compressor, Tube Driver, Boss CE3 chorus, Two Boss DD-2 delays, into a Twin Reverb. You may also want to try setting the second delay at 760ms, double the triplet time delay (380 x 2 = 760ms).
Delay settings - Tony Samperi Below are a few of the rare examples of David using the Echorec in multi-head mode from 1973 and 1975. It's actually a metallic disc that spins around. Heavy reverb. delay time for both solos: 465ms or 480ms - feedback: 15-20% -- delay level: 20% (30-35% for waving part) -- delay type: digital, Comfortably Numb - Pulse version and most Division Bell tour performances: Its not rare to see Pink Floyd play 10-minute long solos over what can only be described as atmospheric playing from the band. One of the ways to do that, is by using your effects creatively, just as he does.
David Gilmour Tone Building - Kit Rae USING TWO DELAYS AT ONCE - David has sometimes simultaneously used two separate delays with different delay times to create a larger sound, similar to what can be accomplished with the multi heads on an Binson Echorec. I turn each effect on one at a time so you can hear how they add to the tone.
The Tone From Heaven: SETTINGS Fat Old Sun- 2015/16 live version: Delay Type: Analog delays are warm sounding, with repeats that are softer sounding than the original note due to a high end roll-off. In this video I'm demonstrating how to set up your David Gilmour delay sounds and settings. As the magnetic tape began to wear out and stretch over time, the repeats would start to degrade and sound dirty and warbly. When using both the mono and stereo outputs together (each running to a separate amp) the DD-2 produces a very defined stereo field, with one channel being the dry signal only, and one being the delayed signal only. This may be a form of Automatic/Artificial Double Tracking (ADT) or simply a short slapback delay. You can simulate the amp tremolo with just about any tremolo pedal or tremolo amp with a square wave shape. 1st delay 428ms. We are a participant in several affiliate programs including but not limited to the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Kits Secret Guitar, Gear, and Music Page The effect actually works fine with only two delays. If using a 2 amp setup, you can try running one 380ms delay to each amp and keep the volume and delay repeats about the same for each, or you can run the 380ms delay to one amp and the 507ms dealy to the other for a slightly different feel to the stereo separation. I use a compressor or a Tube Driver for this. middle keyboard section: 340ms -- feedback: 8-9 repeats It was set for a light overdrive setting and was most likely an always-on pedal. Solo: 300ms. I am not talking about spring reverb from an amp. Some are actually too high quality for my personal taste.
David Gilmour's delay sounds - YouTube delay 1 time (main delay): 380ms -- feedback 8-10 repeats - delay level: 95% -- delay type: digital With regards to the actual sound of the echo repeats, there are essentially two types of delays - analog and digital. Alt. a`Its very reliable, just like the MXR, but its much more versatile and teachable. I use chorus, little delay and some reverb on my amps clean setting. 480ms: feedback: 7-8 repeats - delay level: 75% -- delay type: clear digital, Sorrow: Give Blood slide guitar: 440ms -- feedback: 5-6 repeats -- delay level: 30-35% -- delay type: analog If you want this sound and have a delay that shows the time in milliseconds, follow these steps. My sound has everything to do with what sounds good to me. "Square wave" means the sound wave looks square shaped, rather than wavy. Brian May (of Queen) did the same effect a few years later on, - The 1983 Boss DD-2 was one of the first, and best sounding digital delays to come out of the early days of digital effects pedals. For the solos, Gilmour played his iconic black 1969 Fender Strat into an amp setup that was essentially a smaller version of his stage performance rig, consisting of a 100-watt Hiwatt half stack and a Yamaha RA-200 revolving speaker system, with the Hiwatt and Yamaha run in parallel. One day, Roger decided to take some of the techniques that I was developing and try them out himself on bass. second solo: 490ms, What Do you Want From Me? When I'm recording I'll often set them in tempo to the track, so although they are just acting as an echo, the echo is rhythmic in away and has a triplet and the 4/4 beat in it. Head 1 = 75ms .Head 1 = 95ms. There are several modern Echorec style pedals, including a few with more accurate playback head controls than the Catalinbread, but the Cat Echorec is a fairly no nonsense, simple to use version that sounds great. second solo: 500ms - feedback: 3-4 repeats -- delay level: 15% -- delay type: analog, Shine On You Crazy Diamond I-V Syds theme - 2016/15 Live version: The delay time and your playing must be precisely in time with the song tempo, so it takes some practice to perfect this style of playing. Gilmour uses pristine delays. If you have a good sound in the room or hall you are playing in, there is no need to add reverb, but in small or dead sounding rooms, adding a small amount of reverb in your effects rig can really enhance the sound. Below is an example of David using two digital delays (TC 2290 Digital Delay and the dual delays from a PCM 70 delay) for the intro to Time in 1994. solos: 430ms, Yet Another Movie: Gilmour used the same 294ms delay from the Echorec plus the built in vibrato from an HH IC-100 amplifier, which was a very choppy tremolo effect. verse/chorus sections: 310ms -- feedback: 3-4 repeats solo (Pulse): 490ms, Astronomy Domine - Pulse version (MXR Digital Delay System II for solo) Head 2 = 150ms (or 75ms x 2)..Head 2 = 190ms (or 95ms x 2) Mar 8, 2013. outro solo: 680ms -- feedback: 4-5 repeats. That's another one of the personal esthetic judgments that you use in trying to get something to sound nice to yourself. ..delay #2 MXR Digital Delay System II (switched on at start of unison bends when mirror ball opens): 720ms Gilmour used a similar gated tremolo effect for the sustained chords in the verse sections of Money, using the noise gate from an Allison Research Kepex (Keyable Program Expander) studio module, modulated with an external sine wave generator (according to engineer Alan Parsons). Below are examples from 2016 of David using three digital delays in series for Syd's theme from performances of Shine of You Crazy Diamond. A) All those pictures out there of David Gilmour's tours have the settings knobs shown, but you can not go by that and insist it is bible.
DD-500 Settings for David Gilmour Style Lead Guitar Delay Brian Eno did something similar later in the early-mid '1970s with his famous reel-to-reel frippertronics tape delay effect. delay 1: 90ms Sort of a triplet on top of a triplet time delay. This way the echo repeat from one delay is not repeating the echo repeat of the other, and the original guitar signal is kept pristine rather than altered by going through two different delays. 8-10 repeats on each. Most analog type delays have a lower quality repeat decay that rolls off more high end on each repeat. All of the settings for this tone can be found in this PDF download below. David is using two delays from a PCM70 rack delay to simulate the Echorec sound. BKB Tube Driver, Electro-Harmonix Electric Mistress, TC Nova delay. The repeats are bright and shimmery but not brighter than the original signal. Then I play the bass rhythm clean, then with the effects on. Most digital delays create an accurate, pristine repeat that only decays in volume with each repeat, not in quality. So why don't you hear the repeats most of the time? SLAPBACK / ADT DELAY - It is not often, but ocassionally there is what sounds like a short slapback delay in Gilmour's guitar recordings, like the "dry" solo in Dogs from the Animals album. Theyre so famous they sell for a very high price and are deemed a collectable for many. I use the Tremotron from Stone Deaf Effects for this. Those are not the type of parallel setup we are talking about here. The second send went to a Roland SDE 3000 digital delay in his rack, with individual level controls for both the send and return, along with a mute switch. Alans Psychadelic Breakfast with 2.2 second tape delay_Oct 1970. Killer Guitar Rigs Magazine is an online resource for everything guitar, from music news to gear reviews to interviews with your favorite artists we have something for every genre and skill level. These are 5 note scales, pretty much the simplest scale a guitarist could use. 380 divided by 3 = 126.7ms. It helps to have the echo repeats of the first delay fall right in between, or on the repeats of the second delay, so it has a rhtmic feel. Blue Light Riff - with and without delay. 5 A.M. : If running both delays in series, set the repeats however long you can go before oscillation starts, which is 8-10 repeats on most delays. - David Gilmour from Guitar for the Practicing Musician, 1985, We also have an old MXR DDL (MXR Digital Delay System II) digital delay unit built into a rack unit. 147ms (2X the delay repeats), or 2 pulses for every delay repeat. Getting an original Binson Echorec these days is nearly impossible.
David Gilmour Delay Time Library - Kit Rae David often uses long echo delays to help create a his big, smooth, and liquidy solo tones. It is around 294ms on the studio recording. There are several reasons. -, David Gilmour interview by Bob Hewitt from Guitarist, June 1986, FINDING THE "TRIPLET" TIME DELAY FOR A SONG. 1 2. Shown below are some typical Gilmour DD-2 delay times. *While I did a ton of work figuring out many of these delay times, a big thanks goes to Raf and the fine folks at the Gilmour Gear Forum for providing some of the delay times and to Will for compiling a list of the 2015/16 tour delay times seen on David's digital delays! Find the proper delay time for the song as described above, then let's do some "Echorec math". Depending on your second delay EQ, you may need to experiment with the number of repeats and repeat volume.